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  1. 1. Do you believe in any kind of Deity?

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I do not believe in any type of god that has been presented to me by anyone or any that I have read about. There is no proof from my perspective that solidifies the existence of a deity. I have never been visited by any god or angels in my life and I have been through some horrific experiences that would warrant a visit. I have no clue how humanity came to be and if there is a creator of all things. If there is I would like to think it would present itself and it would take care of its creations like they were its children. I am very open to any possibilities as long as there is proof, but I will not blindly follow written words and have faith in something that for lack of a better word is imaginary. 

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This will always be a difficult question for people to answer honestly because for the most part the core basis for belief in a deity is 'faith'.  Personally I don't like the term deity as it can be misconstrued very easily and can often lead to immediate dismissal by people; I prefer the term creator and to understand what this creator may be requires a lot of investigation and reading of various viewpoints and when a correlation occurs then you begin to lay the foundations of 'belief' which in turn requires a certain amount of faith.

Explaining 'life' is way beyond us and we often overestimate our own 'belief' in ourselves to provide an answer to everything.  A good friend of mine once said 'if the human mind cannot imagine it then it does not exist' - try to apply that statement to your own existence and see what comes to the fore, it may just surprise you.

As for religion, it's everywhere and everyone has a different take on what is the correct interpretation of God and The Bible; the important thing to remember is that all Holy books are written by men, not by God, and men (when I say men I refer to mankind) have a unique way of manipulating words to fit whatever they wish to convey and can often portray themselves as hypocrites.

Personally, I do believe that there is an intelligence behind all that we perceive and because such an intelligence will be way above us as we are above an amoeba there is no way that we can see the 'big' picture of whatever plan exists, but whatever that plan is we are a part of it; perhaps a miniscule pinprick in comparison to everything else that makes up the universe at large.

There are those who have experiences that cannot be easily explained by science (or even religion) but to deny them outright without further investigation is placing yourself in a position of entertaining a more enlightened opinion than others, yet it would be just as difficult to explain that opinion other than stating outright dismissal of every other opinion, which begs the question 'do you know something everyone else doesn't and can you prove it?'

It's a tough question to answer honestly without referencing the words 'faith', 'belief' 'religion' and 'personal experience'.

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I know this thread is a couple months old, but I figured my first post could be on this thread anyway because I'm brand new and have to start somewhere lol.

 

I was raised in a household where my mom was very open about things, and she prayed to both God as Christians know Him as well as other pagan deities. She allowed me to form my own opinions on religion and God from a young age. I remember when I was very young and my little brother was going through chemo, we would recite Now I Lay Me Down to Sleep. I stopped after a few years, probably because I didn't really understand what exactly i was doing. I was never baptised into the LDS faith of my dad's family.

 

In 2011 or 2012, I stopped believing in God when my dog got sick. I prayed for days that he would love until my dad got home from his hunting trip, and he tried to make it. My dog was a fighter even though he was in pain and his organs were failing from a vet tech's careless mistake (a full double dose of the rabies vaccine is what we believe took my sweet boy, because he was only 7 and otherwise fairly healthy with at least a few good years left in him). He didn't make it until my dad got back. The hunting trip was cut short and we had my sweet boy cremated but never saw the ashes. It was right after Christmas that he passed, December 28th.

 

I was furious with God and I walked away. I eventually found other gods/esses and most of them didn't work out for me either. A few got me through some rough patches, then told me I didn't need their help any more. I have devoted myself to Thor and the Universe, and it is them that I pray to. I've always believed that there is something larger than we humans, but to me the Big Man in the Sky wasn't that. At least not for me. I've spent my life as a spiritual person, but not religious as most people define the term.

 

(This is the only picture I have of my dog. For some reason, he was really happy wearing bras.)

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On 12/26/2019 at 6:10 AM, Paige Balan said:

I know this thread is a couple months old, but I figured my first post could be on this thread anyway because I'm brand new and have to start somewhere lol.

Well then, let us begin! 

First off, @Paige Balan, welcome and let this be the beginning to a beautiful friendship and possibly a place you can call a home on the internet! I am elated you are here and hope to inspire you in some way! I see @Kelly Brown invited you! If you need anything at all, you need but only ask.

On 12/26/2019 at 6:10 AM, Paige Balan said:

I was raised in a household where my mom was very open about things, and she prayed to both God as Christians know Him as well as other pagan deities. She allowed me to form my own opinions on religion and God from a young age.

It is a rare one indeed that parents allow this school of thought, but I must say my mother has always been the same way.

On 12/26/2019 at 6:10 AM, Paige Balan said:

I remember when I was very young and my little brother was going through chemo, we would recite Now I Lay Me Down to Sleep. I stopped after a few years, probably because I didn't really understand what exactly i was doing.

Funny you should mention this, I felt the exact same way with a religious experience and for this exact reason I stopped myself.

It was a night I went with some family friends to church and at this church they had one of those radical evangelists doing the 'Halleluiah' speeches where the evangelist would smack people in the head and they fall back. I remember going up there thinking to myself 'Are these people insane?', granted I was only like 12 but I had no idea why or what they were doing and noone explained it to me; I remember the evangelist hitting me in the head, where I was to fall back in some faithful, 'someone will catch me', deal - but, I stood there like 'What the hell' moods. Finally, our family friend told me just fall back and he'd catch me; so I did. 

But that left me thinking how fake the whole thing was and to this day it is something I remember fully and honestly, it is the only message I took from that experience. To this day when I see this stuff, I have vivid flashbacks of that experience, and still don't have answers to it, by the way.

It also sounds like there is a story to be told with your brother and his cancer, something for another time I imagine.

On 12/26/2019 at 6:10 AM, Paige Balan said:

I was never baptised into the LDS faith of my dad's family.

I couldn't help but laugh at this, as I too have memories of this day, needless to say it would be for our more mature side 'Humanastory Late Night' lol. A story for another time.

On 12/26/2019 at 6:10 AM, Paige Balan said:

In 2011 or 2012, I stopped believing in God when my dog got sick. I prayed for days that he would love until my dad got home from his hunting trip, and he tried to make it. My dog was a fighter even though he was in pain and his organs were failing from a vet tech's careless mistake (a full double dose of the rabies vaccine is what we believe took my sweet boy, because he was only 7 and otherwise fairly healthy with at least a few good years left in him). He didn't make it until my dad got back. The hunting trip was cut short and we had my sweet boy cremated but never saw the ashes. It was right after Christmas that he passed, December 28th.

This honestly fits right in with what the episode was about. I believe I have a link to the 'War Room' that was tied into this episode, the War Room is where you would argue a point of view on the topic the war-room has. I believe at the time I took the side of Sam Harris whom made several good points about the existence of god and what his thoughts were - I believe it was located 

The audio clip of this argument can be found in 'Sam Harris - Religious Argument' an audio file (.MP3) within that thread. Feel free to vote and give your thoughts on that too if you want, but I felt he had some compelling arguments to make.

I tell you there is nothing harder than losing a beloved family member (yes, I consider the family pet part of the family), I feel this  as I've had to also give up pets or put them down in the past, it is one of the main reasons I will never buy or get another pet like that again. It is extremely hard. I would imagine you still live with this and think about it at times yes?

 

On 12/26/2019 at 6:10 AM, Paige Balan said:

I was furious with God and I walked away. I eventually found other gods/esses and most of them didn't work out for me either. A few got me through some rough patches, then told me I didn't need their help any more. I have devoted myself to Thor and the Universe, and it is them that I pray to. I've always believed that there is something larger than we humans, but to me the Big Man in the Sky wasn't that. At least not for me. I've spent my life as a spiritual person, but not religious as most people define the term.

Now it would be interesting to expand on this aspect of your thoughts, @Paige Balan, this sounds interesting, I hear a lot from people that they feel there is something more out there - most don't use larger, but I feel that people who believe we are the end all, be all - really don't have their minds open to the possibility of 'other'. 

Personally I do believe there is more out there, if science is correct in stating that each star in the sky is potentially a sun or planet - if sun, then each sun could have potentially 9 other planets around it (Yes Pluto has not been forgotten!), and at least one of those planets has life, we're in shape. I like to think of it like this, if just one other planet with life is just one million years older then we are; imagine where they would be technology-wise; think of it like this - We as a human race went from horse and buggy to  space shuttle in 100 years, imagine 1,000,000. I don't know if there is conscious design, and I'd be open to the idea IF it can be demonstrated physically.

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I would like to add, that no matter how old our shows are or the posts are, the minute someone posts something new it updates :) and @Paige Balan this was a really beautiful response from you, hope to see more!  You should add the image you put here into your personal (member's gallery).

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Growing up I was raised in a religion and I felt then as I do now. Hypocrites is honestly the first word that comes to mind. If you don't act, speak, dress etc. like them, then you were not living the godly life. Organized religion really just makes me NOT believe in god. The whole thing was made up by man in the first place. If someone NOW said that GOD come to me, and told me that this is his word and we need to live by it, lol y'all know they'd be considered freaking crazy (insane) I asked one question to a few different religions and they all answered with the same...

So, here was my question. Why is it that you say GOD allows FREEDOM of choice when in fact, choices are taken away from people everyday. A child, A mother, A man: Raped, Murdered, Beaten! Their CHOICE was TAKEN away from them. They didn't CHOOSE for that to happen. So here's my Question again, Why did those EVIL people GET their choice but the victims didn't? You know, they were praying to god to save them, to help them. Yet, their choice was taken. Their answers were ALL the same... Because god doesn't interfere with peoples choices... lmbo My response was quite simple, Well then that's HYPOCRITICAL and NOT a god I'd want to believe in. 

So No, I don't believe in any Deity. I don't raise my daughter that way either. She knows that when she's grown  up she can make that choice for herself. My husbands mom shoves it down my daughters and I's throats but I just smile and show respect and so does my daughter, but I finally had enough of her BS lies and told her straight up, for being catholic, you sure lie a lot. Just saying! Obviously, we're not speaking anymore.  Doesn't hurt my feelings. Her choice, Her life! 

 

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Hi @Paige Balan and @Allison Soto thanks for sharing your stories with us.

Yeah I feel the same way about loss of life whether it is animals or humans and that any god would just sit back and let all the horrible things happen around the world.

Also, I have found the same thing in all religions, that the majority of the people that are highly religious and try to push it on to you are liars and hypocrites. 

I would like to think there is something out there that made all of this beautiful universe but it is definitely not what others claim it to be. 

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